If it's wrong, I've probably said it...
If I could just have one more topping, please...
Published on September 25, 2004 By chiprj In Blogging
OK, this is something that is really not that big a deal at all, just something I've been thinking about recenlty (yeah, I probably do need some help). Over the past week, my score has dropped by three points on three separate occasions. I know what you're thinking... 'How can that be? There's never been a problem with JU's math before...' Well, it's not a problem with the math, I can assure you.

I've been trolled. Now, the next thing to pop into your mind is 'How can that be? chiprj is the sweetest guy on JU! Who would troll him?' OK, so the only person really thinking that would be my mom... no, that's not true... she knows me too well, too.

Now, I don't have a complaint about being trolled. I'm sure I deserved it, wherever it came from. I've said many things here on the forums that was troll-worthy. I've also made liberal use of the troll button (as well as the interesting and insightful features). I mean, if you get on a thread and hijack it in a mean, name-calling way, I'm gonna reach out and touch you. Conversely, if you post an article that shows that you are obviously clueless about the facts (I'm not talking about opinion, I mean if you are flat out so wrong about something that you can't even spell the terminology right, let alone find out anything about the topic in the first place), I'm going to make some mean comments in your direction. And, I should get trolled for doing that, too. I mean, that's exactly what I'm doing. I freely admit it. I troll. I've done this a few times and I'd just like to know what I'm getting slapped for.

Now, that brings us to the title of this article. I realize that the ice cream is free. I enjoy the ice cream here at JU. It is very tasty! And I truly do appreciate it. But, if I could just have on more topping, please. This is my suggestion and if any admin/Stardock/Joeuser employee should happen to read this and think think I should shove my suggestion where the sun doesn't shine, well that's OK. I'm just suggesting here. I really don't know how hard a job it would be to add a feature like this. Please don't think I'm in any way trying to demand something. I will live happily with this JU ice cream for free as long as you offer it.

My suggestion is this - could there be an alert that goes out if you receive a trolling, insightful, or interesting ranking. As near as I can tell right now, you can only tell if you see that your score has been affected. There is already a mechanism in place to lets you know that an article in your watchlist is updated, so would it be possible to add something like that into that mechanism? Nothing like, 'you've been trolled by user X, you fool!' But maybe something that says you've been rated an Insightful for a comment on a particular article. No need to say who it was that rated you. Nothing good can come from that. But maybe a note saying you've been trolled or insightfulled.

Maybe I'm asking too much. If so, that's fine. Just something I've been thinking about.

The other title I thought of for this was 'Did You Troll Me?' but I figured I shouldn't confuse people with my 'Did You Call Me?'... I mean, confusing the readers could lead me to get more trollings... And I am trying to be good, so we don't want any of that... HAHAHAHA!

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on Sep 25, 2004
Well, I've never thought you've been deserving of a trolling . . . you're always funny, on-topic, and respectful of others, whether you agree with them or not.

I think your idea is good though . . . it would be nice to know when these things happen . . . I know I've been trolled before, but I don't know that I've received an insightful or interesting, but if I did get one, it'd be cool to know it and not try to figure it out based on points.

Good idea, chiprj!
on Sep 25, 2004
Here is an insightful for you Chiprj..
on Sep 25, 2004
I would really like such a feature. I don't know for sure if I have been trolled before. I can certainly think of a time or two that I deserved and it probably happened, but just having to go off our score can get a bit tedious and inaccurate.
on Sep 25, 2004
The only problem I see with it is if you knew what you were trolled for (and I would certainly like to know) it would probably be obvious in most cases who trolled you.

For instance, I was just trolled. I'm pretty sure it was for my comment on JesusStaysCrunchy's anti-Brad thread "Free Speech Protection." A benign enough, strictly FYI post on my part, but raising the ire of an obvious lunatic. Assuming I am right and that is where I got trolled, then it is pretty obvious who trolled me.

In your case, losing three points instead of two gives you an extra clue -- it wasn't a "citizen" level user that did it.


Personally, I'd still rather see the troll feature totally eliminated.
on Sep 25, 2004
In your case, losing three point instead of two gives you an extra clue -- it wasn't a "citizen" level user that did it.


I don't understand about this . . . different user levels take away different amounts of points? Does the same apply (in reverse) for insightful or interestings?
on Sep 25, 2004
different user levels take away different amounts of points? Does the same apply (in reverse) for insightful or interestings?


Yes. Citizens are +/- 2 points. Moderators are +/- 100 points. I can't remember all the in between ones, but the next step up from citizen is +/- 3 points.
on Sep 25, 2004
Thanks for the info, Gene.
on Sep 25, 2004

There are citizens, there are power users, there are elites, and then there are admins.

I'm an elite.  I get three times the amount of points for posting, trolling, and insightful ratings.

I didn't troll you, in case you were wondering.  I have trolled a couple of people this week...I believe that Imajinit was one for a stunt he pulled on Janders' thread...but you weren't one of them.

 

on Sep 25, 2004
ahh . . . so I am a lowly private and dharma is a staff sargeant, and Karma is a Captain? You're not going to smoke me, are you dharma? he he he . . .
on Sep 25, 2004

You're not going to smoke me, are you dharma?


Nope.  There are a few people who I'd really, really like to smoke, but you're not one of them. 

on Sep 25, 2004

Yes. Citizens are +/- 2 points. Moderators are +/- 100 points. I can't remember all the in between ones, but the next step up from citizen is +/- 3 points.


Gene,


No actually, it's a slightly different equation. I can't remember the exact formula or I would tell you, suffice it to say, for higher users, the impact can be MUCH more than 3 points hit for trolling.

on Sep 25, 2004

For instance, I was just trolled. I'm pretty sure it was for my comment on JesusStaysCrunchy's anti-Brad thread "Free Speech Protection." A benign enough, strictly FYI post on my part, but raising the ire of an obvious lunatic. Assuming I am right and that is where I got trolled, then it is pretty obvious who trolled me.


I can't comment on his threads, I'm blacklisted. And after he made such a HUGE case out of me blacklisting someone else...lol. So, not only is he a lunatic, he's also an incredible hypocrite. Fortunately, he's just the flavor of the day...lol

on Sep 25, 2004

I can't comment on his threads, I'm blacklisted


I'm not, but I expect to be shortly.


And you're right, he is a hypocritical lunatic.

on Sep 25, 2004
What's the criteria for moving up in user level? I am having trouble wrapping my brain around all this . . .
on Sep 25, 2004

What's the criteria for moving up in user level?


It's at admin's discretion.  The way it was explained was that they give status to people they want to keep around. 


Muggaz and I had a spat because I got moved to elite and he didn't...despite the fact that he's been here a bit longer than me. You're a smart girl,  that should tell you something.....

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