If it's wrong, I've probably said it...
Published on October 31, 2004 By chiprj In Current Events
OK, I was happily skimming through articles in Blog Navigator when I came across an article on OhMyNews! .

You can check it out here - U.S. Reservists Wary of Reactivation . I'll only cut and paste parts of it, so to get the full view, go read it.

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The article really got me going because it seems that the author is trying to make Reservists out as complete victims. Now, I do feel for Reservists getting call ups. It's a tough, tough situation. No doubt. But, getting called up is part of the job description!

The specific example that he cites is a Reservist that lives in Korea and works for a Korean university. He states that the person even hopes to retire from that job in a few years. The author states that the reason many people choose to serve in the Reserves as -

Some enjoy PX and commissary benefits, while others need the paycheck or are working towards retirement. For the most part, the duty is easy -- one weekend each month, or attendance at a two-hour meeting once per week. In some ways it is more of a social get together that provides an escape from the daily grind than what one would consider military duty.


He then moves on to specifics about this Reservist that lives in Korea -

Imagine his surprise when he discovered that he had been activated and had about 30 days to get his affairs in order and report for duty. This person has not been on active duty for over 25 years. He is in his 40s, has small children and a wife and all of them live in Korea.


Nothing is said about the nature of the call up. The author focuses on the fact that the person has been off active duty for 25 years. Yet, no mention of whether the call up was for an entire unit or a specific job specialty. I doubt (although, I really don't know, honestly) that the Army was watching the immigration counter for this guys return and nailed him at first oppurtunity. Also, if the guy was in the Reserves for 25 years, you'd think at some point in time, he'd have been briefed on the possibility of being called up. Maybe?

The next couple of paragraphs deal with the fact that in the US, Reservists that are called up enjoy certain protections under the law. Employment. Housing. That sort of thing. We do try our best to make sure nobody takes advantage of our citizen Soldiers (during the time some might argue the Army is taking advantage of them). But, this specific Reservist doesn't get any of these benefits as he lives in Korea and is employed by a Korean university.

So, we should pity him for his own choices?

Well, have no fear, this Reservist won't be deploying anywhere. He petitioned the Army to not be activated and was given his discharge.

In the case of the Korea-based reservist, he recently received news that he has been granted a discharge due to hardship. This is a relief to him, but also a source of great disappointment. He has served his nation for 17 years and looked forward to receiving a meager pension after completing his 20th year; unfortunately, that no longer seems an option. Although he has not had to put his life on the line like the men and women fighting in Iraq, he too has become a casualty of the war in Iraq.


A casualty of the war in Iraq? I say, he's a casaulty of his own decisions. He chose to join the Reserves. He chose to enjoy the benefits that allows him (PX and commissary benefits in Korea are a gold mine alone). He chose to live and work someplace where he would not receive the protections of US law. He chose to ask to not be activated. I don't have an issue with his hardship. It's real. Leaving his job and home in Korea would cost him greatly. Just as it would cost many stateside Reservists. They too were allowed to apply for a release from the call up. I just don't get how they can be disappointed about being discharged.

It is unfortunate that so many Reservists have been called up and sent overseas to Iraq and Afghanistan (among other places). It truly is. But, we can't just pull active duty troops out of some magic foxhole. Some may say that is the fault of the current administration for stretching the military thin. Some may say it's Clinton's fault for overseeing such a massive drawdown in the 90's leaving our military understrength for the task at hand. Some say it's Bush Sr.'s fault for not finishing the job the first time. Some may say it's Reagan's fault for overseeing such an oversized force during the 80's that required the country to eventually chop it down to size.

I say, it really doesn't matter. This is reality. Reservists are taking it in the shorts, but so are active duty troops. In the end if you want to enjoy the benefits, you have to be willing to answer the call. If you're not willing to answer the call, then don't let the door hit you on the ass when we say good-bye.

AND, don't cry to the press like a poor victim when you're not willing to do the job you agreed to.

end rant

Comments
on Oct 31, 2004
Awesome article, chip.

I don't like that we are relying so much on Reserve and National Guard troops, and when they serve back-to-back year and a half tours, I feel really sorry for them. However, simply being called up is part of being a Reservist. It's a part of the job and a part of the contract. Do they really sign up and expect to never have to actually do what they trained to do? Why, as a Reservist, did he choose to arrange his life in such a way that it would be a great hardship to go on active duty? If being active duty didn't fit his life plans, then he should not have continued to sign up as a Reservist. . . . and now he's complaining because they let him get out of doing his duty? WTF? To compare his situation to "casualties of the Iraq war" is disgusting.

on Nov 01, 2004
Hey! I'm really glad your BN is now fully functional and that you actually use it!
on Nov 01, 2004
love the rant, 100% correct
on Nov 08, 2004
I'm a little nervous here as this is the second article that I've read online about a reservist being re-called for active duty. The other reservist that I read about being re-called had served during Desert Shield/Desert Storm like me in 1991 and completed their military obligations in 1996, also like me. I was re-called once, fulfilled my military obligations and don't want to be re-called again. Does anyone seem to know if there is an age limit or whether they are just re-activating particular reservists? For instance, does any one know if the military needs particular jobs filled like refuelers, infantrymen or supplykeepers? Thanks.
on Nov 08, 2004
love the rant, 100% correct


Thanks!

Fox - I honestly don't have any more information about what specialties are being mobilized outside of unit call ups. I am sure that specific job specialties are being called up, but I really don't know which ones. Sorry I can't help much. I'd say that your best bet would be to contact your Reserve Unit and find out if they've heard anything. I would guess though, that of the three examples you list, the infantry and supply are probably part of unit call ups where an entire unit is activated. As for the refuelers, I'd guess that they are probably part of unit call ups, but could be called up individually, too. Again, sorry that I can't help much better than that.
on Nov 08, 2004
Seven to eight months before Desert Shield/Desert Storm began, the Navy Seabees (which I was attached to) were asking for volunteers to go to Guam and Port Hueneme in California. These were the major supply depots for the Navy Seabees and they needed bodies to send material out to the gulf. I was a supplykeeper with the Seabees and that's why they asked me. At the time, I declined the military's offer. However, seven to eight months later, in March 1991, I was re-called.

Let me say that my unit was not sent with me. I was re-called individually. Unfortunately, I can't remember now whether other people in my drill unit were re-called at the time because so much has happened in my life since 1991 (I didn't return to that area of the US after my activation period) and everyone else in my drill unit was considerably older than me then. Most likely, though, there were a couple of people in my drill unit who were also re-called at the time.

Well, based on my prior experience and what we know today, the military has been calling reservist units and probably individuals too. We still have pending questions -- 1) who exactly does the military need, 2) what job specialities are needed, 3) is there an age limit when the military isn't interested in reservists, 4) most importantly, are there any limits with IRR or with people who haven't been in the reserves for many years?

I, like many other people, thought that once you fulfilled your enlistment contract and did not re-enlist that the military could no longer re-call you to active duty, unless they had a special need. Now, we're reading that about people who ended their military obligations many years ago (8 years for instance), never re-enlisted and are being re-called to serve on active duty in Iraq. Of course, brother Bush has been silent about this and the media too. Nevertheless, this is causing me to grab my Redux. How can we find out what the situation is? I think current and former reservists need to start pushing for answers.
on Nov 08, 2004
Fox - As far as I know, once you complete your IRR time (8 years total from your initial enlistment date), you are free and clear. As far as people that are Reservists and National Guardsmen currently, they can be activated as units and as individuals, as you point out. I do not know what the hot jobs are, though. You may have better insight into the specifics than I, since I'm on active duty and honestly don't know a whole lot about the Reserves call up procedures.

I don't think there is an age limit. If you are old enough to serve in the Reserves (or, not too old), then you can be called up.

Again, to answer your last question, I'd say that once you've done your 8 years, your done. For example, I have 12 years active time right now. If I were to ETS tomorrow and not choose to enter the Reserves or Guard, then I would be hands off. I already fulfilled my IRR commitment by serving 8 years.

I, like many other people, thought that once you fulfilled your enlistment contract and did not re-enlist that the military could no longer re-call you to active duty,


This is exactly how I understand it. All service members, regardless of the active duty part of their initial contract, are considered 'in' for 8 years from the start of that initial contract. They serve the active part and then are under obligation to the IRR, at a minimum, for the remainder of those initial 8 years. I honestly don't know that you can be reactivated after those 8 years, if you're not still part of the regular Reserves or Guard.

Now, we're reading that about people who ended their military obligations many years ago (8 years for instance), never re-enlisted and are being re-called to serve on active duty in Iraq.


I have no knowledge that this is happening, although that proves nothing. The case I cited in this post was a service member that was still serving in the regular Reserves. He did his drill time and was still collecting a paycheck with his Reserve unit. He should have known the possiblity of being called up.

So, to sum up - if you are currently drilling with a Reserve or Guard unit, then it is possible that you will be called up. If you are not currently serving in a regular Reserve or Guard unit and drilling with them, and it is 8 years beyond your initial BASD (Basic Active Service Date - the day you started Basic Training, most likely - and it sounds as if you are since you were around in 91), then you should be free and clear. You are not under contract. I hope this helps, but without more specifics of your situation, I don't know if it does or not.
on Nov 08, 2004

Oh horrors!  You mean he was called upon to do what he had signed up to do?  The Army was going to make him do his duty?  Oh, the humanity!!


I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain about being called up.  I'm sick and tired of hearing " I only did it to pay for school/get a supplimentary paycheck.  I didn't know they could send me to war"...well, what the heck did you think you were signing up for?  Tea parties and picnics in the park one weekend a month?


I do feel bad that they have to deploy for so long...but I feel bad for any military member in that situation.


 

on Nov 08, 2004
Oh horrors! You mean he was called upon to do what he had signed up to do? The Army was going to make him do his duty? Oh, the humanity!!


I know, right?

I do feel bad that they have to deploy for so long...but I feel bad for any military member in that situation.


I'm with you on this one. It's a tough situation for both the service members and their families - that includes spouse and children, but also parents and the extended family of the deployed troops. They are truly all in it.
on Nov 08, 2004
Insightful again Chip!
Like the soldiers here and in Iraq who would, in normal times, be in civvies already. Talisein, SSG Eclectic Music, and numerous others. they may not be happy but they do their damn jobs.
on Nov 08, 2004
Like the soldiers here and in Iraq who would, in normal times, be in civvies already. Talisein, SSG Eclectic Music, and numerous others. they may not be happy but they do their damn jobs.


That's right! They do their jobs and that's what makes this the best Army in the world. Even when you stretch the meaning of volunteer force, the Soldiers answer the call.